< 1 2 34 > 555 posts, read 662,684 times 29,048 posts, read 27,163,992 times Originally Posted by A_D_M Exactly and you can add standard electric baseboard to that list. The difference between the oil/hydronic ones is you get a more even heat as they take longer to cool. They also take longer to heat up. A watt of energy using resistance element heating is going to give yo X amount of heat no matter how they have it set up. Edenpure, the "Amish stove" and others are just gimmicks in a nice fancy package. If you want to save look at coal, in NEPA it's even cheaper than wood if you bought the wood at market value. It's certainly much easier and convenient to use than wood. If you're looking to not get too involved look at the econo here, it's about $2k and cost few hundred more to install if you do it yourself. As long as you have decent chimney no reason not to do it yourself. It's not rocket science: Leisure Line Coal Stoves - Automatic Coal Stoker Stove Home Heating Systems

70,000 BTU's, it will almost take the entire heat load of average house 2000 sq. foot home. Cost you about $600 to $700 for fuel for the year. It will be paid for the first year you use it and it's all gravy after that. Here's an example from their site: EdenPURE Heaters Quartz Infrared Portable - Heater Questions The EdenPURE Gen 3, SunTWIN Gen 3 and EdenPURE Signature Series heaters rate at approximately 5000 BTUs. The BTUs are basically irrelevant as a unit of measure since the patented heating process of the EdenPURE/SunTWIN intentionally does not operate using old inefficient methods of heat combustion, which is rated by BTUs/ Our heating method is far superior for efficiency, safety, comfort, and providing a natural healthy indoor environment. Here's electric baseboard for $119 , same wattage and same BTU. Same cost to run it for same result. There's cheaper ones that this... Fahrenheat Electric 1500 Watt Portable, Liquid-Filled Baseboard Heater, Model# PHH15002 |

Northern Tool + Equipment I'd imagine the Edenpure has a fan so it will push the heat around the room a little better. Efficiency is only one factor, the biggest factor is the cost of the fuel. Efficiency doesn't translate to savings if the fuel costs a lot more. Electric heat is 100% efficient. Efficiency ratings are based on how much energy is actually utilized to heat your house. Since 100% of the electic is used for heat it's 100% efficient. On the other hand wood stoves, coal stoves and oil furnaces need to vent gases so some of the heat goes out the chimney. There efficiency can't be 100%. Wood stoves are like 75%, coal is between 80 and 88%. There's newer gas boilers on the market that are like 90+. To determine if the edenpure is going to save you money compared to gas or other fuels you can use this calcualtor here:- Energy, Coal News and Discussion It's an excel spreadsheet so you can just download it and work with it locally. If you don't have excel you can download and install open office.

Here's some samples on cost per million BTU adjusted for efficiency, you'll need to adjust for your own prices: Fuel Oil........$2.50/Gallon.... = $23.11 Coal ...........$170.00/Ton.... = $8.85 Note that I adjusted the calculator for the proper BTU's per ton of coal and efficiency. ton of anthracite is 24 million plus and the efficieny of the stoves start around 80%.1957 chevrolet batwing air cleaner for sale So to answer your question, will his save me money?oreck air purifier proshield plus Not even close if you're getting natural gas for that price. sharp air purifier kc860eThe only way it would save you money is if you turned the heat down in the rest of the house and used it in one room that was sealed off.

Electric rates are going up too... 7,940 posts, read 11,646,211 times Originally Posted by W-B proud The claim is that Eden Pure heaters cost about 9 cents an hour to run. I haven't yet received my electric bill since I got the heater about 3 weeks ago. 1,974 posts, read 3,969,907 times Originally Posted by go phillies Yeah, Give me an update when you do get your electric bill. Like I said earlier, my plan is to move everyone into my bedroom to sleep (the kids always sleep in there anyway), use it at night, so I dont have to run the furnace all night to heat the entire house. Hopefully, I will only have to heat my bedroom, and keep the furnace at maybe 50 degrees just so the pipes don't burst. That should be a hell of alot cheaper then running it at the normal 65-75 degrees I would think?! 510 posts, read 783,347 times Originally Posted by roxxy38 No electric heater is any more efficient than any other. A space heater may help you save $ as you can place it near where you a sitting, or sleeping, an heat that space instead of the whole house.

I'd say the best way to cut your electric heat bill at night is to use an electric blanket. Keeps you warm, and you can turn the room and house thermostats down. Makes getting out of bed in the AM an adventure though. If you have programmable thermostats, you can have them start to heat the house about 30 minutes before wake up time. 203 posts, read 449,740 times 15,391 posts, read 15,551,771 times Our oil-filled radiator was not cheap.....if you use infrared then you have to be "hit" by the infrared wavelength of light to feel the heat....like sunshine. Remember that heat is used to produce electricity and then you are using resistance to turn the electricity back to heat...highly inefficient....better to use a point source like wood or coal etc. I do agree the oil filled radiators are not enough to heat alone in Pa...but he wants supplemental heat; it is not his main heat source. The oil retains heat well once heated; therefore that is what makes them efficient.